In doing research for my book you can end up going down some fascinating online rabbit-holes. This one took some very interesting left and right turns! Join me as we go down, down into the dark!
I really like the incestuous relationship between the fantasy and science fiction elements of Warhammer. Not only because of the bleed over from the miniatures that were being produced at the time, but also specifically the Siege supplement that noted there were feral and medieval worlds that still existed during the 41st millennium.
The rules for Fantasy Battle allowed for flintlock weapons as Empire troops and Dwarven units used gunpower. They could also appear in 40K as on pg. 73 of 1st edition 40K the stats block for Muskets existed (as noted they were used on the planet of ‘Birmingham’ in the 41st millennium) because over the range of planets in the vast setting there would be ones where the tech level had devolved to gunpower or before. Again, it made sense to me then as a player with some Fantasy Roleplay models that I could re-use them in 40K.
So, this is a part of GW history where you can clearly see things changing. The fictional worlds were originally intended to be connected: Warp travels, Old Slann, Chaos, the various gods... RT isn't much clear about that, as it focused less on Chaos, but the two Realm of Chaos volumes amplified the notion by a large margin. It was all quite clear: the Warhammer World was connected/part of the Warhammer 40K universe, with the collapsed Warp gates at the poles keeping it de facto insulated, only occasionally reached through a breach in the storms (in the same way the Eye of Terror and the Maelstrom work).
Then the corporate takeover took place, 4th edition Warhammer and 2nd edition Warhammer 40.000 happened, and the two fictional worlds weren't linked anymore. You only had the occasional inside joke or red herring that the developers put here and there.
In the 2nd Citadel Compendium, there is a scenario written by Richard Halliwell where you invade an Amazon temple and they are all armed with High Age Weapons (aka las pistols).
I really like the incestuous relationship between the fantasy and science fiction elements of Warhammer. Not only because of the bleed over from the miniatures that were being produced at the time, but also specifically the Siege supplement that noted there were feral and medieval worlds that still existed during the 41st millennium.
Yeah I loved that too.
The rules for Fantasy Battle allowed for flintlock weapons as Empire troops and Dwarven units used gunpower. They could also appear in 40K as on pg. 73 of 1st edition 40K the stats block for Muskets existed (as noted they were used on the planet of ‘Birmingham’ in the 41st millennium) because over the range of planets in the vast setting there would be ones where the tech level had devolved to gunpower or before. Again, it made sense to me then as a player with some Fantasy Roleplay models that I could re-use them in 40K.
So, this is a part of GW history where you can clearly see things changing. The fictional worlds were originally intended to be connected: Warp travels, Old Slann, Chaos, the various gods... RT isn't much clear about that, as it focused less on Chaos, but the two Realm of Chaos volumes amplified the notion by a large margin. It was all quite clear: the Warhammer World was connected/part of the Warhammer 40K universe, with the collapsed Warp gates at the poles keeping it de facto insulated, only occasionally reached through a breach in the storms (in the same way the Eye of Terror and the Maelstrom work).
Then the corporate takeover took place, 4th edition Warhammer and 2nd edition Warhammer 40.000 happened, and the two fictional worlds weren't linked anymore. You only had the occasional inside joke or red herring that the developers put here and there.
Its interesting how the connectivity has ebbed and flowed over time. Thanks for the comment, some interesting points!
In the 2nd Citadel Compendium, there is a scenario written by Richard Halliwell where you invade an Amazon temple and they are all armed with High Age Weapons (aka las pistols).
Yeah thats a great issue and a really fun looking adventure. Was in that space when Warhammer was kand-of and RPG, kind-of a wargame. Thanks :)